Wikivoyage:Salongen

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Löpande diskussioner och frågor

Community Wishlist 2020

The 2020 Community Wishlist Survey is now open! This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on November 11, 2019, or comment on other proposals to help make them better.

This year, we’re exclusively focusing on smaller projects (i.e., Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage, and Wikinews). We want to help these projects and provide meaningful improvements to diverse communities. If you’re a member of any of these projects, please participate in the survey! To submit proposals, see the guidelines on the survey page. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals!

IFried (WMF) 4 november 2019 kl. 20.30 (CET)

Making the Content Translation Tool available for Wikivoyage

I don't know if you all have ever tried Wikipedia's Content translation Tool, but i'll just say that this is a very strong tool that has helped the Wikipedia community translate A LOT of articles between the various Wikipedia editions (mostly translations of articles from the English Wikipedia to the smaller Wikipedia editions).

So far this tool is only used in Wikipedia.

As part of the current Community Wishlist Survey, a suggestion has been brought forward to make this tool available for all Wikivoyage editions as well:

meta:Community_Wishlist_Survey_2020/Wikivoyage/ContentTranslation_work_for_Wikivoyage#Voting

If you support making this tool available for Wikivoyage as well, please add your vote in that page. ויקיג'אנקי (diskussion) 29 november 2019 kl. 21.36 (CET)

Övernattningsstugor och vindskydd

Hej. Det finna i OpenStreetMap ett hundratal övernattningsstugor och ett tusental vindskydd som jag skulle vilja beskriva och lägga upp en bild på. Passar det in här på wikivoyage?--So9q (diskussion) 10 januari 2020 kl. 11.20 (CET)

Hej @So9q. Jag förmodar att du avser övernattningsstugor och vindskydd vid vandringsleder? Har du något exempel på ett sådant objekt i OpenStreetMap? Själva idén tycker jag är bra, även om kanske inte riktigt alla vindskydd behöver tas med... Att skriva enskilda egna sidor för varje specifik övernattningsstuga och vindskydd blir alldeles för oöverskådligt. Men det finns andra metoder! Vi har ett uppslagsord här på Wikivoyage som heter Fjällsäkerhet, men i skrivande stund omdirigeras den länken automatiskt till sidan Resesäkerhet – och där står inte en enda bokstav om några fjäll, och för den delen ingenting om några stugor och vindskydd heller. Min tanke är att man kan radera omdirigeringslänken på sidan "Fjällsäkerhet" och istället skriva om den till en egen, fristående sida som handlar om just fjällsäkerhet. Den sidan skulle i så fall lämpa sig bra för information om övernattningsstugor och vindskydd med mera. Vi har även andra sidor där den här informationen nu till stora delar saknas men vore välkommen, till exempel sidorna Jämtlandstriangeln och Kungsleden (inom parentes sagt behöver sistnämnda utökas med en väldigt massa information, inte bara sånt som rör övernattning och fjällsäkerhet). Avslutningsvis vill jag ta tillfället i akt och sända en "ping" till @Riggwelter som precis som jag är administratör här på Wikivoyage och alltid har initierade tankar, idéer och förslag på hur Wikivoyage bör fungera och presenteras.

–Mvh, Tommy Kronkvist (diskussion), 10 januari 2020 kl. 16.38 (CET).

Tack för svar och idéer till mera skrivande. Jag tror at varje enskilda stuga passar bättre på wikipedia och då kan vi väl länka dit vid behov. I dagsläget finns 2672 vindskydd där 172 är stugor utan uppvärmning, ett 80-tal övernattningsstugor med eldstad samt runt 100 stugor med bemanning och service. I dagsläget finns ganska fläckvis information om många av dessa objekt och jag tänkte förbättra detta så det bliver lättare att veta vad man ger sig ut i när man ska vandra.--So9q (diskussion) 11 januari 2020 kl. 10.46 (CET)

@So9q På Wikipedia passar bara en del av stugorna, såsom jag skrev på Bybrunnen där, men Wikivoyage kan ha listningar för de enskilda stugorna (såsom i en:Nordkalottleden#Walk). Jag vet inte hur det är här, men på en-wv är listningarna länkade till Wikidata. Jag tror att stugorna är relevanta där. Bild kan finnas i WD-objektet eller i listningen, så att den dyker upp då man klickar på objektet på den dynamiska kartan. Informationen du vill införa verkar vara sådan att den passar för WV-listningarna (om jag minns rätt). Huruvida informationen om enskilda stugor skall läggas in i artiklarna om leder eller i dem om området är oklart, men jag skulle tro att det är bättre att hänvisa till områdena från lederna än tvärtom (i de fall båda finns). Vi har artiklar om väldigt få svenska nationalparker, andra områden och leder, så det skulle antagligen vara bra att skriva stubbar att föra in stugorna i. En intro får man ofta från Wikipedia och om du för in stugorna (och vad annat du kan med måttligt arbete) kan andra fylla på. --LPfi (diskussion) 22 mars 2020 kl. 11.22 (CET)

Wikivoyage är inte en reseencyklopedi. Uppgifter om enstaka vindskydd, deras belägenhet och faciliteter passar möjligen in i beskrivningar över en vandringsled, till exempel Blekingeleden. Vidare passar inte externa länkar till uppgifter om deras belägenhet in heller; Wikivoyages reseguider är gjorda för att skrivas ut, inte för att konsulteras online. Riggwelter (diskussion) 8 april 2020 kl. 13.44 (CEST)

Wiki Loves Folklore

Hello Folks,

Wiki Loves Love is back again in 2020 iteration as Wiki Loves Folklore from 1 February, 2020 - 29 February, 2020. Join us to celebrate the local cultural heritage of your region with the theme of folklore in the international photography contest at Wikimedia Commons. Images, videos and audios representing different forms of folk cultures and new forms of heritage that haven’t otherwise been documented so far are welcome submissions in Wiki Loves Folklore. Learn more about the contest at Meta-Wiki and Commons.

Kind regards,
Wiki Loves Folklore International Team
— Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk)
sent using MediaWiki message delivery (diskussion) 18 januari 2020 kl. 07.15 (CET)

Movement Learning and Leadership Development Project

Hello

The Wikimedia Foundation’s Community Development team is seeking to learn more about the way volunteers learn and develop into the many different roles that exist in the movement. Our goal is to build a movement informed framework that provides shared clarity and outlines accessible pathways on how to grow and develop skills within the movement. To this end, we are looking to speak with you, our community to learn about your journey as a Wikimedia volunteer. Whether you joined yesterday or have been here from the very start, we want to hear about the many ways volunteers join and contribute to our movement.

To learn more about the project, please visit the Meta page. If you are interested in participating in the project, please complete this simple Google form. Although we may not be able to speak to everyone who expresses interest, we encourage you to complete this short form if you are interested in participating!

-- LMiranda (WMF) (talk) 22 januari 2020 kl. 20.01 (CET)

Additional interface for edit conflicts on talk pages

Sorry, for writing this text in English. If you could help to translate it, it would be appreciated.

You might know the new interface for edit conflicts (currently a beta feature). Now, Wikimedia Germany is designing an additional interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This interface is shown to you when you write on a discussion page and another person writes a discussion post in the same line and saves it before you do. With this additional editing conflict interface you can adjust the order of the comments and edit your comment. We are inviting everyone to have a look at the planned feature. Let us know what you think on our central feedback page! -- For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) 26 februari 2020 kl. 15.15 (CET)

Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools

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This early version of the Reply tool automatically signs and indents comments.

The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.

In a future update, the team plans to test a tool for easily linking to another user's name, a rich-text editing option, and other tools.

The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.

• On 31 March 2020, the new svara tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
• The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
  • an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
  • a rich-text visual editing option, and
  • other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

8 april 2020 kl. 21.28 (CEST)

Wikimedia Sverige – digitalt årsmöte

Hej alla!

Som en del av er vet kommer Wikimedia Sverige i år, på grund av den covid-19, att ha ett digitalt årsmöte. Årsmötet kommer att äga rum nu på lördag, via konferenstjänsten Zoom. Alla medlemmar är välkomna att närvara, och information om hur och var man gör det finns här. Föredragningslista och alla handlingar finns såklart som vanligt på årsmötessidan på föreningens wiki. Hoppas se en del av er där! Eric Luth (WMSE) (diskussion) 20 april 2020 kl. 15.02 (CEST)

Editing news 2020 #2

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The new features include a toolbar. What do you think should be in the toolbar?

This issue of the Editing newsletter includes information the Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily.

• Reply tool: This is available as a Beta Feature at the four partner wikis (Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian Wikipedias). The Beta Feature is called "Diskussionsverktyg". The Beta Feature will get new features soon. The new features include writing comments in a new visual editing mode and pinging other users by typing @. You can test the new features on the Beta Cluster now. Some other wikis will have a chance to try the Beta Feature in the coming months.
• New requirements for user signatures: Soon, users will not be able to save invalid custom signatures in Special:Preferences. This will reduce signature spoofing, prevent page corruption, and make new talk page tools more reliable. Most editors will not be affected.
• New discussion tool: The Editing team is beginning work on a simpler process for starting new discussions. You can see the initial design on the project page.
• Research on the use of talk pages: The Editing team worked with the Wikimedia research team to study how talk pages help editors improve articles. We learned that new editors who use talk pages make more edits to the main namespace than new editors who don't use talk pages.

– Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

17 juni 2020 kl. 22.36 (CEST)

Feedback on movement names

Hallå. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Hjälp till att översätta till ditt språk if necessary. Tack!

There are a lot of conversations happening about the future of our movement names. We hope that you are part of these discussions and that your community is represented.

Since 16 June, the Foundation Brand Team has been running a survey in 7 languages about 3 naming options. There are also community members sharing concerns about renaming in a Community Open Letter.

Our goal in this call for feedback is to hear from across the community, so we encourage you to participate in the survey, the open letter, or both. The survey will go through 7 July in all timezones. Input from the survey and discussions will be analyzed and published on Meta-Wiki.

Thanks for thinking about the future of the movement, --The Brand Project team, 2 juli 2020 kl. 22.33 (CEST)

Note: The survey is conducted via a third-party service, which may subject it to additional terms. For more information on privacy and data-handling, see the survey privacy statement.

Editing news 2020 #3

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More than 50 million edits have been made using the visual editor on desktop.

Seven years ago this month, the Editing team offered the visual editor to most Wikipedia editors. Since then, editors have achieved many milestones:

• More than 50 million edits have been made using the visual editor on desktop.
• More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
• The visual editor is increasingly popular. The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has increased every year since its introduction.
• In 2019, 35% of the edits by newcomers (logged-in editors with ≤99 edits) used the visual editor. This percentage has increased every year.
• Almost 5 million edits on the mobile site have been made with the visual editor. Most of these edits have been made since the Editing team started improving the mobile visual editor in 2018.
• On 17 November 2019, the first edit from outer space was made in the mobile visual editor. 🚀 👩‍🚀
• Editors have made more than 7 million edits in the 2017 wikitext editor, including starting 600,000 new articles in it. The 2017 wikitext editor is VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode. You can enable it in your preferences.

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

9 juli 2020 kl. 14.56 (CEST)

Announcing a new wiki project! Welcome, Abstract Wikipedia

Hi all,

It is my honor to introduce Abstract Wikipedia, a new project that has been unanimously approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Abstract Wikipedia proposes a new way to generate baseline encyclopedic content in a multilingual fashion, allowing more contributors and more readers to share more knowledge in more languages. It is an approach that aims to make cross-lingual cooperation easier on our projects, increase the sustainability of our movement through expanding access to participation, improve the user experience for readers of all languages, and innovate in free knowledge by connecting some of the strengths of our movement to create something new.

This is our first new project in over seven years. Abstract Wikipedia was submitted as a project proposal by Denny Vrandečić in May 2020 after years of preparation and research, leading to a detailed plan and lively discussions in the Wikimedia communities. We know that the energy and the creativity of the community often runs up against language barriers, and information that is available in one language may not make it to other language Wikipedias. Abstract Wikipedia intends to look and feel like a Wikipedia, but build on the powerful, language-independent conceptual models of Wikidata, with the goal of letting volunteers create and maintain Wikipedia articles across our polyglot Wikimedia world.

The project will allow volunteers to assemble the fundamentals of an article using words and entities from Wikidata. Because Wikidata uses conceptual models that are meant to be universal across languages, it should be possible to use and extend these building blocks of knowledge to create models for articles that also have universal value. Using code, volunteers will be able to translate these abstract “articles” into their own languages. If successful, this could eventually allow everyone to read about any topic in Wikidata in their own language.

As you can imagine, this work will require a lot of software development, and a lot of cooperation among Wikimedians. In order to make this effort possible, Denny will join the Foundation as a staff member in July and lead this initiative. You may know Denny as the creator of Wikidata, a long-time community member, a former staff member at Wikimedia Deutschland, and a former Trustee at the Wikimedia Foundation . We are very excited that Denny will bring his skills and expertise to work on this project alongside the Foundation’s product, technology, and community liaison teams.

It is important to acknowledge that this is an experimental project, and that every Wikipedia community has different needs. This project may offer some communities great advantages. Other communities may engage less. Every language Wikipedia community will be free to choose and moderate whether or how they would use content from this project.

We are excited that this new wiki-project has the possibility to advance knowledge equity through increased access to knowledge. It also invites us to consider and engage with critical questions about how and by whom knowledge is constructed. We look forward to working in cooperation with the communities to think through these important questions.

There is much to do as we begin designing a plan for Abstract Wikipedia in close collaboration with our communities. I encourage you to get involved by going to the project page and joining the new mailing list . We recognize that Abstract Wikipedia is ambitious, but we also recognize its potential. We invite you all to join us on a new, unexplored path.

Yours,

Katherine Maher (Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation)

Sent by m:User:Elitre (WMF) 9 juli 2020 kl. 22.13 (CEST) - m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/July 2020 announcement

Technical Wishes: FileExporter and FileImporter become default features on all Wikis

The FileExporter and FileImporter will become a default features on all wikis until August 7, 2020. They are planned to help you to move files from your local wiki to Wikimedia Commons easier while keeping all original file information (Description, Source, Date, Author, View History) intact. Additionally, the move is documented in the files view history. How does it work?

Step 1: If you are an auto-confirmed user, you will see a link "Move file to Wikimedia Commons" on the local file page.

Step 2: When you click on this link, the FileImporter checks if the file can in fact be moved to Wikimedia Commons. These checks are performed based on the wiki's configuration file which is created and maintained by each local wiki community.

Step 3: If the file is compatible with Wikimedia Commons, you will be taken to an import page, at which you can update or add information regarding the file, such as the description. You can also add the 'Now Commons' template to the file on the local wiki by clicking the corresponding check box in the import form. Admins can delete the file from the local wiki by enabling the checkbox. By clicking on the 'Import' button at the end of the page, the file is imported to Wikimedia Commons.

If you want to know more about the FileImporter extension or the Technical Wishes Project, follow the links. --For the Technical Wishes Team:

Max Klemm (WMDE) 6 augusti 2020 kl. 11.14 (CEST)

Important: maintenance operation on September 1st

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The Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its secondary data centre. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic to the secondary data centre on Tuesday, September 1st 2020.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

• You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, September 1st. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 19:30 IST, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday September 2).
• If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

• Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
• There will be code freezes for the week of September 1st, 2020. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.

This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community.

Trizek (WMF) (talk) 26 augusti 2020 kl. 15.49 (CEST)

Invitation to participate in the conversation

Hallå. Apologies for cross-posting, and that you may not be reading this message in your native language: translations of the following announcement may be available on Meta. Hjälp till att översätta till ditt språk. Tack!

We are excited to share a draft of the Universal Code of Conduct, which the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees called for earlier this year, for your review and feedback. The discussion will be open until October 6, 2020.

The UCoC Drafting Committee wants to learn which parts of the draft would present challenges for you or your work. What is missing from this draft? What do you like, and what could be improved?

Please join the conversation and share this invitation with others who may be interested to join, too.

To reduce language barriers during the process, you are welcomed to translate this message and the Universal Code of Conduct/Draft review. You and your community may choose to provide your opinions/feedback using your local languages.

To learn more about the UCoC project, see the Universal Code of Conduct page, and the FAQ, on Meta.

Thanks in advance for your attention and contributions, The Trust and Safety team at Wikimedia Foundation, 10 september 2020 kl. 19.55 (CEST)